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port404
January 7th, 2006, 11:48 AM
Comments? ((a letter to the editot sent prior))

Re: Shit's Fucked Up - Local FSU Gang Disrupts All-Ages Hardcore Scene

I don't know where to begin here. The events sound terrible, but
unfortunately, Megan has taken some liberties with the facts in order
to sensationalize. There is the FACT that the article is wrong when
it says, "According to the Arizona Daily Star, members of FSU, armed
with hammers and machetes, invaded the venue and started shoving
concertgoers."

The article you reference (yet give no way to verify the reference)
notes something completely different. Here's the quote you failed to
mention because it isn't so sensational:

From Arizona Daily Star 9th December 2005
"Skrappy's staff members turned off the music, turned up the lights,
called police and forced the fight outside into the parking lot.
There, pushing escalated into a brawl when some of the adults, wearing
FSU shirts, grabbed weapons from cars, Krahe-Eggleston said. Someone
was hit in the head with a hammer, another was threatened with a
machete, she said."

There were not people invading the club brandishing weapons. After
the fight spilled out into the streets is when things went sour. But
we must remember that this particular club in Arizona (Skrappy's) is
notorious for violence, without even the presence of the FSU. Even in
the article you 'referenced': "Police were called to Skrappy's five
other times this year, including one call for an assault victim with a
minor injury. The other calls were for property crimes."

Now, how can I trust the article to be true when the 'facts' used have
been altered to make the story sound better?

Moving away from criticism, I wonder about the fate of the two
bouncers at El Corazon. Is it possible, that per chance the dozen
violent FSU members are an anomaly? Is it possible that they are the
rotten apples? I don't recall hearing that the bouncers were starting
fights or threatening violence. So, they just lost jobs because they
were connected to some FSU group? How is it right to discriminate in
such a fashion? Isn't Ms. LeFavor concerned in the least about the
dollars she'll now have to throw away in unemployment benefits? If
she wants to have a "sit-down" at the club to try and resolve the
situation in the music scene, she had two spokesmen available who I
know if I were in their shoe's would not be ready to have a congenial
'sit-down' discussion with her moderating.

So, yes: shit's fucked up. But Who, What, When, Where, and Why?

mjcrites
January 7th, 2006, 12:31 PM
Poor journalism on the part of The Stranger? No, you've got to be kidding me? They wouldn't do that would they?

Rotten666
January 13th, 2006, 12:27 PM
yeah , the stranger is a joke but that doesn't change the fact that these guys are morons.

sultana
January 23rd, 2006, 01:43 AM
As for Skrappy's, I can say with total authority that the place does not have a reputation for violence. It is owned and run by a Tucson non-profit as part of their youth outreach program. It is actually a very cool place that both provides a place for hardcore and other shows to play Tucson and it reaches and helps a lot of kids who need it.

FSU did show up and start randomly assaulting customers inside Skrappy's. Of course there have been fights there, although not as many as probably happened at the Seahawks game tonite. The staff has a well-developed policy of doing exactly what they did -- calling the police and emptying the club.

They guy who shot and killed his assailant did so in self-denfense and was carrying the firearm legally.

I remember (as in was there, got the bruises to prove it) the skinhead and punk rumbles of the 1980s in Washington DC. This is just as meaningless as those conflicts. Hopefully people will realize once again that there are more non-bullies than there are bullies and act accordingly. There is no reason why events should be cancelled or artists intimidated because of a couple of disenfranchised boneheads with little dicks and few opportunities to demonstrate power or control other than in acts of violence.

gutter
January 23rd, 2006, 02:11 PM
you are so full of shit

sultana
January 24th, 2006, 06:29 PM
err, to whom was your missive directed, Gutter? If it was to me, then could you elucidate on which point you feel I was full of shit? Was it the Tucson part, the DC part or the little dicks? Because I don't have any first-hand knowledge of the phallic inadequacies of anyone associated with FSU; I was just making my best guess. But the Tucson and the DC part I am pretty sure about.

Or are you a peace-loving Seahawks fan?

gutter
February 13th, 2006, 11:12 AM
you are full of shit on all counts
it someone wants to walk into a "hardcore" show and start randomly assaulting people because they are insecure about the size of their dick it is their God given right.. No one randomly assaulted anybody, i'm just making a point.. just because you used to live in DC and you can spell obscure words like "missive" doesn't mean you have any idea what is going on and you are talking out of your ass like most people involved in this slander