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Fuzed
June 30th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Last night Neumo's was packed with people out to hear what City Council candidates have to say about the music community. One of the questions asked was about issues with urban density and noise. They all said they suported a vibrant music and club scene and that people who move downtown need to deal with that. But a conflict is arising in a City where the Mayor is supporting the music community, says he wants Seattle to be a 24 Hour City, but also wants a lot of residents living downtown in the same areas that have been the hotbed of music and nightlife for decades. And the City is choosing to come down on clubs, not developers or residents, so we have a preview of where this conflict might head.

To deal with this The Mayor has a PLAN. The plan calls for a team of city employees to spend every Friday and Saturday night between early July and September inspecting the more than 80 nightclubs downtown.

The City has created a Joint Assessment Team, which will also include firefighters making sure clubs are meeting safety codes and city revenue and consumer affairs inspectors checking business licenses and whether clubs are paying the admission tax.

At times, they will be joined by Liquor Control Board agents, inspectors with Public Health -- Seattle & King County and the city's Department of Transportation, looking for crowded sidewalks or blocked roadways.

According to an article in today's PI (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/230713_nightclubs30.html) the City says "We're not out there to shut people down or find violations," .... "But we need to get a better handle on what actually is going on." Some of these ideas they are taking from cities like Sacramento, LA and Guiliani's New York. In those cities they have been adapting Sidranesque civility rules concerning nightlife. We need to be sure that does not happen in Seattle!

Having been in the business for many years, I have yet to be in a club where the Police, Fire, Liquor or Health boards show up to just see what is going on. They are looking for violations. Not to be too cynical, but the music community needs to watch this with an eye to protecting ourselves. This could be a good pro-active plan by the City to take out the bad clubs who have not been regulating themselves, or it could be another attempt by the City to harrass a now thriving music community as has happened in the past. Let's give Mayor Nickels the benefit of the doubt - he has been excellent on music issues so far, working to get rid of the Teen Dance Ordinance, creating a rational noise ordinance, opening the Music Office, working with the music community to come up with decent liquor rules protecting all ages shows, etc.

But let's also remember that the City Attorney who worked on this plan also took a strong anti-postering position in the court of appeals, and the Police secretly fought beind the scenes to support the Teen Dance Ordinance and kill all ages shows by lobbying the Liquor Board to change rules that would make them it impossible to do mixed use shows. And let's not forget that until the last few years The City of Seattle was pro-actively ANTI-MUSIC, shutting down the music sene every time it has started to be successful here as far back as the 1930's Jazz scene.

So please everyone, write to the Mayor and City Council and let them know you are paying attention and that you support music and a vibrant nightlife dowtown. They need to hear from you!

Write to them asap at

Greg Nickels (Mayors.Office@seattle.gov); Jan Drago (jan.drago@cseattle.gov); Richard Conlin (Richard.Conlin@seattle.gov); Richard McIver (richard.mciver@seatle.gov); Jim Compton (jim.compton@seattle.gov); Peter Steinbrueck (peter.steinbrueck@seattle.gov); Nick Licata (Nick.Licata@Seattle.gov); David Della (David.Della@Seattle.gov); Tom Rasmussen (tom.rasmussen@seattle.gov); Jean Godden (Jean.Godden@Seattle.gov)

Jiff
July 7th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Re, "This could be a good pro-active plan by the City to take out the bad clubs who have not been regulating themselves, or it could be another attempt by the City to harrass a now thriving music community as has happened in the past"

Yes, the live music scene downtown isn't doing too bad right now except for in Pioneer Square with its decline and the rise of DJs. It's a good point that the clubs causing problems are dealt with quickly as they could spoil things for those that aren't. It wouldn't take too many rowdys roaming Belltown or incidents like the gun play at I believe the Bohemian Backstage recently and Pier 70 several years ago. I wonder if the hip hop nature of the bar the guy tried to open in Belltown recently (Des Amis?) had anything to do with the denial of his application.

What a shame if the incoming residents put a damper on the fun.

cherrycanoe
July 13th, 2005, 04:24 PM
this valuable thread is in danger of getting lost and it truly is important. the crackdown on clubs is not dave getting over-excited about something. it is FACT. i tend bar in belltown and on last friday we were visited by both the fire department AND the cops. they were making the rounds to every spot on 2nd avenue and beyond, doing surprise visits to check on permits, code violations, and capacity.

while there is no excuse to not have the proper permits in place, i have to really question the timing of such visits. at 8pm on a friday, most bars are already doing a stiff business. bartenders do not have the time to go through paperwork when there are 10 people deep at the well. the doorman doesn't know where the hell the permit is - that dude is making $10 an hour to check your i.d. and make sure that drunks don't puke in the bar.

please stay on top of local legislation that affects your city. The Man will definitely fuck up a good time, given the opportunity.

TacomaScene
August 2nd, 2005, 12:18 AM
bump and bump

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Jennifer Maerz
August 2nd, 2005, 11:24 AM
As someone who goes to a ton of shows every week I have to say I am flat out tired of clubs fucking with their capacity in order to squeeze a couple more dollar bills out of their patrons. Everyone knows the big offenders in this city, we've all been to shows where reaction to overstuffing ranges from being annoyed and uncomfortable to being downright pissed that you can't see shit because there are what feels like 200-300 more people than should be in the club in that club.

I am all for the fire marshals swinging through clubs to keep these owners in check. They should do random checks at 10, 11pm, though, not at 8 and 9pm, when people have yet to filter into the club yet. There are issues of safety, consideration for your patrons, and simple smart business sense that have to do with checking that capacity that are completely ignored in Seattle and I'm sick of it. Even the Comet is careful about capacity, as annoying as it can be to wait outside in a line to see some punk band play...why can't the bigger clubs follow suit?

chops
August 2nd, 2005, 11:57 AM
bumping JM's comment.