Wet Spot

[wendy]

has anyone actually been to the wet spot? i am curious about it, but being a hot 20-something capitol hillster, i don't really want to go to waste my time going somewhere with a bunch of fat poly goths in vinyl (sorry, i'll be nice to them in everyday life and all, but i don't want to fuck them.or see them fucking.ew.). I can get free hot ass up here. I just want a dungeon.
and, like, i know about being pro-sex and I am pretty open minded in my non-sex life, but i know what i want when it comes to pussy, and it is not akward smelly people with bad dyed black hair. can anyone tell me if this stereotype is un-applicable?
ps i don't fuck people with bad dyed black hair on the hill, either. anymore.

[poochiekafelnikov]

....get thee to a nunnery

[wendy]

i have no idea what that means. nuns are hot, though, in a way. a non-fat-poly-goth way.

[Rain Monkey]

I always wondered, ever since my afternoon classes at CCD, if nuns masturbate alot. Do you think the Mother Superior has a tool chest full of dildoes and batterys? Does she ration them out to the sisters?

I know, I'm going to hell. I was already.

[Johnny Slick]

Nuns do not masturbate! Nuns are fucked by Jesus! I am surprised you would even ask that! You're not just going to hell, mister man, you're going to like one of those inner circles with the flames and the hurting!

[djwudi]

A special hell, reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theater.

[felix]

A special hell, reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theater.

You have to respect a Firefly quote.

[popastronaut]

..."I am pretty open minded in my non-sex life"

I find that pretty doubtful based on your post. How nice for you that you're an attractive, 20-something from Capitol Hill. Your life must be really exciting.

[quasilaur]

Please, whatever you do, don't go to the Wet Spot.

In order for you to go there, you'd have to sit through an orientation on sex positive culture. You'd have to come there w/ an open mind. You obviously don't have that capability... and I honestly wonder if you know what the SM scene is actually like, for while I'm no expert, I can say that your conception of the people in sex positive culture and the SM scene is far from accurate. Take your kink elsewhere! Though I'm not a member of SPCC, I can tell you I'd find it a lot more welcoming knowing that you're not there. :)

[Molotov]

Quasilaur has essentially suggested that you should go there, or at least check it out. Because you, Wendy, have characterized some of your expectation of the Wetspot crowd as that of a bunch of "fat poly goths in vinyl" and Quasilaur has suggested that your characterization of the SM scene (I assume it to be proxy for the Westpot crowd) is wrong, you might actually find a different crowd... maybe even the crowd you're looking for. Unfortunately, I see no way around the possibility of having wasted time if it's not what you sought.

That's the most I can help you out.

On another note: So an attractive person from Capitol Hill has particular tastes that may or may not be based on ill-informed assumptions. What a fucking surprise. So does everyone from everywhere. I do not see a reason to fault anyone for that.

[goreedgo]

Wendy: I have been to the Wetspot and it doesn't sound like it is the place for you. But if you are interested in getting a feel for it, I think you can go to an orientation session for free where you could see the space, the people who volunteer there, and the kinds of people that are interested in joining.

On a side note: I found your post rude and snotty, if honest, and it left me feeling relieved that I don't know you in real life. I assume you don't care that you came across as rude or perhaps you even meant to. But just in case I'm wrong about that and you are unaware of how immature and self-absorbed you sound, I thought I'd let you know.

[Renee]

Is that you?

[StraightWhiteMale]

Wendy, don't waste your time. The Wet Spot IS a place for fat old freaks and a hot 20 something girl would be repulsed. Me and my hot(petite/fit) 32 year old girlfriend have been looking for years for a sex club that limited it's membership only to other hot/fit/young looking people and unfortunately no public ones seem to exist. Every so often I hear of ad hoc groups of such types going off on private erotic getaways, but I have never been to one, only seen pictures. If you happen to be single and bi and would like to try being with a couple, then me and my gf might want to meet you. Otherwise, I can put you on a list of people to alert if/when the ad hoc events I mentioned come together. Good luck in finding what you are looking for, and ignore the haters. They are probably fat, old or freaky looking.

[AbbyNormal]

They do exist but you're not hot enough, smart enough, cool enough to be considered for membership/admission.

Next troll please!

[StraightWhiteMale]

They do exist but you're not hot enough, smart enough, cool enough to be considered for membership/admission.

Next troll please!

Ok so if they exist, then post their names and websites and other information. Also, if you claim to be a member, post your pic so we can see how hot you are! Otherwise, you are just full of shit.

[StraightWhiteMale]

When people feel the need to attack you out of the blue, it is usually because something you said made them insecure / struck a chord. I've met with several younger, attractive women who have checked out the wetspot and confirmed that the average age/weight there is older and heavier than "hot 20s". Sorry if you are insecure and want to attack us for preferring hot young people to have sex with. How does this affect you? Why do you feel the need to attack these preferences? Talk about yourself, not about your assumptions about me. Why shouldn't an individual express a desire to have sex only with people to whom they are physically/visually attracted?

[Nutrix]

When people feel the need to attack you out of the blue, it is usually because something you said made them insecure / struck a chord. I've met with several younger, attractive women who have checked out the wetspot and confirmed that the average age/weight there is older and heavier than "hot 20s". Sorry if you are insecure and want to attack us for preferring hot young people to have sex with. How does this affect you? Why do you feel the need to attack these preferences? Talk about yourself, not about your assumptions about me. Why shouldn't an individual express a desire to have sex only with people to whom they are physically/visually attracted?

Well, have sex with whoever you think is attractive, that is, if they think you're attractive enough for them to reciprocate.

Problem with your comments is that you assert them as if everyone else holds your standards of "sexy". To each their own, ya know?

I don't care if you look like Brad Pitt (which I doubt) - you come across through your posts as a very ugly person. Moreover, I sense that for you, sex is more of a spectator sport - you enjoy talking about it but don't actually get to participate that often.

[StraightWhiteMale]

Well, have sex with whoever you think is attractive, that is, if they think you're attractive enough for them to reciprocate.

Problem with your comments is that you assert them as if everyone else holds your standards of "sexy". To each their own, ya know?

I don't care if you look like Brad Pitt (which I doubt) - you come across through your posts as a very ugly person. Moreover, I sense that for you, sex is more of a spectator sport - you enjoy talking about it but don't actually get to participate that often.

More bullshit ASSUMPTIONS!!! First of all, differentiate between ugly as a personality and ugly as a physical/visual impression. Many who are physically ugly may have beautiful personalities, and many who are physically attractive may have ugly personalities. Part of the "beauty" of an ugly person's personality is that they are less picky in who they find physically attractive. Beggars can't be choosers. Now, YOU may find superficiality to be an ugly personality trait, but I do not. When I read the original post, I thought to myself, wow, she must be hot, and good to see she has the confidence to express her needs openly. Others were threatened feeling that maybe they wouldn't meet her standards and felt the need to attack her. Having superficial standards of beauty, even ones that correspond with the WIDELY HELD NORMS in society does not make one ugly on the inside. Generally a lack of superficiality doesn't come from some altruistic tendency, but rather, a lack of options.

Also, the fact that younger is more attractive, especially in how straight men percieve women, is a ubiquitous statistical reality caused by evolutionary biology. The fact that slender is widely found more attractive is also based in the reality that health is attractive. So, while not EVERYONE shares these same beauty standards, the VAST OVERWHELMING MAJORITY do, and the regular clientele at the wetspot DO NOT conform to these standards. This is the heart of the question the original poster asked, and all of you know this. So, why debate or attack or throw up these assumptions and straw men? Just answer the god damn question or shut the fuck up! fatties!!!

Oh and your assumption that I don't get laid is WAY OFF. Maybe I don't get laid as much as you, but that depends on whether you measure in terms of frequency/quality, or quantity (in pounds).

[Trrill]

Just because it's fairly on-topic and too brilliant to be true, here are some great words from the pen of Oscar Wilde:

<blockquote style="background-color: #EEEEEE; border: 1px solid #CCCCCC; padding: 10px;">"People say sometimes that Beauty is only superficial. That may be so. But at least it is not so superficial as Thought is. To me, Beauty is the wonder of wonders. It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances."
<p align="right">-Henry Wotton, <i>The Picture of Dorian Gray</i></p></blockquote>

[popastronaut]

Also, the fact that younger is more attractive, especially in how straight men perceive women, is a ubiquitous statistical reality caused by evolutionary biology. The fact that slender is widely found more attractive is also based in the reality that health is attractive.

Straight, White Male - you're entitled to your opinion, I just find it disgusting.

You're entitled to fuck whomever you want, but talking about the realities of evolutionary biology makes you sound, well...let's just say I don't agree. Also, when you finally start looking for someone to spend your life with, remember that line about &quot;Beggars cant be choosers&quot;.

Oh, one more thing...one great thing about this message board is that YOU"RE NOT A MODERATOR. If I'm offended by something said here, I'll say what I like until the Stranger decides otherwise.

[Chris Comte]

Also, the fact that younger is more attractive, especially in how straight men percieve women, is a ubiquitous statistical reality caused by evolutionary biology. The fact that slender is widely found more attractive is also based in the reality that health is attractive.

This may be accepted currently, but it hasn't always been the case, nor do I suspect it always will be. Reubens painted lots of naked fat women precisely because in his century fat was considered a sign of health and wealth; plump women meant well-fed women meant wealthy parents who could afford to feed them meant they were considered attractive by men who wished to marry into well-to-do familes. Ibid older women, who if they survived the rigors of multiple child-birth were more likely to outlive their husbands and become wealthy widows.

So, it's a fallacy to suggest the current perception of "skinny=sexy" is in any way rooted in "evolutionary biology" when in fact it's really rooted in the current social norms.

[StraightWhiteMale]

So, it's a fallacy to suggest the current perception of "skinny=sexy" is in any way rooted in "evolutionary biology" when in fact it's really rooted in the current social norms.

I never said "skinny=sexy". I said "healthy=sexy". So what if at some random isolated point in the past being fat was considered a sign of wealth and therefore attractiveness? We don't live in that time period! Universally, in all cultures, throughout history, with very few noted exceptions, healthy bodies are the most physically attractive. In fact, skinny is not healthy. Neither is fat. The most attractive women and men are in the middle. Fit, healthy, tight, smooth skin, strong muscles, no more or less body fat than is best for health.

They've done studies with newborn babies who can easily tell the difference between attractive and unattractive people so it's not always culture.

Life is not fair and I am sorry but you cannot simply force people to find someone attractive just because they "can't help" being fat or whatever. Bitching and moaning and complaining about standards of health, fitness or beauty just means you are insecure because you don't fit those standards. In 95 out of 100 cases, there are numerous steps you could take to make yourself look better.

[greencassie]

I never said "skinny=sexy". I said "healthy=sexy". So what if at some random isolated point in the past being fat was considered a sign of wealth and therefore attractiveness? We don't live in that time period! Universally, in all cultures, throughout history, with very few noted exceptions, healthy bodies are the most physically attractive. In fact, skinny is not healthy. Neither is fat. The most attractive women and men are in the middle. Fit, healthy, tight, smooth skin, strong muscles, no more or less body fat than is best for health.

They've done studies with newborn babies who can easily tell the difference between attractive and unattractive people so it's not always culture.

Life is not fair and I am sorry but you cannot simply force people to find someone attractive just because they "can't help" being fat or whatever. Bitching and moaning and complaining about standards of health, fitness or beauty just means you are insecure because you don't fit those standards. In 95 out of 100 cases, there are numerous steps you could take to make yourself look better.
YOU tell em SWM :-)

[ambivalent]

I'm not really understanding why people are being attacked for wanting to limit their casual sexual encounters to people who fit a certain standard of beauty? I am a gay girl in my early 20's, and I tried to go to the wetspot with my girlfriend and a third person that we were sleeping with at the time, and the people going in were overweight and unattractive, so we decided we were better just sticking with the three of us. I don't think that makes me a bad person, there is nothing wrong with confining your sexual activities to people you find attractive.

[Rain Monkey]

That's pretty hot.

Say, I have an idea, let's get together. Maybe you and your girl-friend would like to have some drinks? I'm pretty hot, considering, you know?

I was planning on camping under the viaduct tonight, but if you have a place, I'll buy the Boone's Farm.

Oh, and let's leave the boy out of this, 'kay?

[faketattoo]

so, what happened? are you wendy west? are you too afraid to admit you're wendy west? because i know who you are too. (and "hot"? c'mon. maybe "cute," but not hot.)

[Rain Monkey]

so, what happened? are you wendy west? are you too afraid to admit you're wendy west? because i know who you are too. (and "hot"? c'mon. maybe "cute," but not hot.)

Your post is inappropriate. Anyone who wishes to identify themselves by name may do so, but that is their business and not yours. You have chosen a screen name, why? Even if you choose to reveal your legal name, ssn, and address, then that should be your own choice and not taken from you as an act of violation.

People create barriors between one aspect of their lives and another for good reasons. What we call appropriate boundaries.

An internet chat room or forum is a place where people share in ways that a future emplyer may not find amusing. Often people create fiction in the form of fantasy and post it. Sometimes this is a healthy form of creative expression. Other times people share in ways that are entirely to true for any expression other than anonymous expression.

The internet is crawling with creeps, stalkers, mayors, and other psychotics. If you wish to send anyone a private message there is a means here to do so. If they wish to respond that is their business. Now quit being such an outer.

If your guess is correct than you have violated one person's privacy. If you are wrong than you have harmed two.

Now say three hail marys and sin no more.

For everyone else interested in this thread, here is a link to "One Leg Up, New York City."

http://www.onelegupnyc.com/home.htm

Take a look at how they have chosen to organize their events, and then create the change that you want to see in the local scene.

Oh, and invite me. Or at least have an area where ugly people can watch, masturbating furiously.

[wendy]

i am who you think i am, probbly. And to renee: are you nay nay?

anyway, i hadn't been back in this thread since no one had answered my question in like two weeks, but wow! total replies.

yeah, if i ever have casual sex with strangers i want them to be the boring hot capitol hill hipsters i always have had hot anonymous sex with. I just wanted to use a dungeon.
That is the cool thing about being a grown-up who knows what she likes sexually- i don't have to waste time with things that don't turn me on.

[soultaco]

wendy - I don't belong to the Wet Spot, but I know people who do, and by all accounts it will not be your kinda place. It is full of flabby, decidedly not-so-stylish people, and will not be your scene. And, contrary to what the offended folk here seem to think, you are not a snotty little bitch for simply not wanting to bang flabby, decidedly not-so-stylish people.

[Violet_DaGrinder]

The crowd varies by night and event. But if you can't handle being around fat poly people in Hot Topic gear, or no gear at all, then on the whole, the Wet Spot is not going to be your cup of tea.

This particular fat, poly chick expected to love the WS. I still love the concept, but in practice I find the atmosphere to be. . . hmm. . . boring lowest-common-denominator kink? I'm not comfortable there. I used to be comfortable at the under-35 discussion/workshop group (Ascension), but my ex got that in the breakup, so. . . I have no use for the place, basically.

There's my not-so-stuck-up-and-judgemental young Capitol Hill hipster take on the place. :cool:

[Snakeman]

As a WS member for almost five years now I feel compelled to reply. (You might think that I would know better than to nibble at an obvious troll by now).

I will state emphatically that I whole heartedly love the Wetspot. Just like in the “real world” the WS represents factions from all walks of life and orientations. If one is able to invest some time and to leave one’s intolerances at the door; then the possibilities to find folks of similar interests or even to entertain the chances to hook up with members who fit a rather limited subset of desired body types/orientations increases dramatically.

That “fat poly person” just might have a friend who is a young, hot, “attractive” and sexy as hell. (Who might even reside on Capitol Hill, as if that makes a whit of difference)?

If you can’t get past a superficial categorization of the “fat poly person”, a denigrating descriptive, that is seemingly based solely on their appearance, then it seems unlikely that that the “fat poly person” will be particularly accommodating wanting to assist you in making your own connections.

I have made some very dear friends at the WS, and I even value the friendship of those who I don’t particularly want to have sex with.

The trade off is that I have had BDSM, NSA sex and have met up with and had fun with some of the sexiest, most incredibly attractive and HOT individuals that I could ever have imagined.

It takes time, trust and familiarity to begin such liaisons, but if you develop the skills and invest the time, it could happen for you too!

This overage, slightly overweight, leather and PVC wearing poly person, has had more enjoyable encounters on his own terms, than he could even begin to count. With incredibly sexy persons that I would have given my left nut to hook up with when I was younger and a lot more naive.

If you are simply looking for instant gratification, then perhaps your two best friends, Palmina and Fistina will fit your bill. If you really desire to connect with others: than my unasked for advice, is to accept even those who do not meet your stringently limited criteria. They might just help you out, if you don’t manage to alienate them right off the bat.

Years ago a dyke daddy said to me:

“Honey, if you show up and you’re nice to the girls. Then you’re going to so much pussy you won’t know what to do with it”.

This has pretty much been borne out, except that it pleases me to think that I like to know what to do with it.

[xaotica]

a friend whose opinion i trust went to the wet spot. of course the first question i asked was: "hot or not?"

he felt it was pretty much the same as any other bar/club/etc... some of the people were unappealing, some looked like the relatively cute lady/gent next door, and a few were really sexy. he didn't feel overwhelmed with "old, fat, dyed-black-hair" people, but neither did he feel like he was at the center for meatmarket-seeking hipsters.

in some ways it may be for the best if it isn't the same people you work with/go to school with/see on the street every day...