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duffell
July 28th, 2005, 04:38 PM
This story gets stranger (and sexier) the more it unravels.

Republican Jean Schmidt and Democrat Paul Hackett are running in a special election in Ohio's 2nd Congressional District. Ordinarily, this red district would favor the Republican by a wide margin (20+ points, that area). Paul Hackett, however, is an Iraq War (II) veteran who's been breathing fire down the necks of the chickenhawks. As it stands right now, 5 days before the special election, Hackett is a mere 5 points below Schmidt in the polls, which is incredible, not to mention inside the +/-.

The Swift Boating has begun, with talk show hosts and even Schmidt's staffers questioning his patriotism. Said an advisor to Schmidt,

I understand that Hackett did not participate in combat at all. ... Let's just not act as though we led marines in combat if we did not, okay?

Schmidt has mostly been on the offense here, but she is promoting a platform of her own. What is her platform centered around? "Family values," of course!Of course, between posturing about family values and ripping into her opponent, Schmidt didn't take the time to get to know her staffers. Even as she touts social conservatives, Schmidt is employing a campaign manager who, as it turns out, is into BDSM. Joe Braun's profile was found on a local BDSM site (the username matches his e-mail address), and he is a self-described "experienced Dom seeking a sub for long term exploration and training."

Personally, I don't care who you fuck, peg, whip, whatever. But as long as you're whipping your slave, could you PLEASE keep the hypocrisy to a minimum and NOT work for a so-called "family values" conservative Republican? Honestly! That does piss me off.

The blogosphere's lefties are having a field day with this. However, even as they rightly decry the hypocrisy, some of them are getting out of hand. They're generalizing, calling BDSM afficianados perverts and freaks. Bob Brigham at the Swing State Project (http://www.swingstateproject.com/) is being particularly harsh.

Let the TV pundits and Schmidt's fellow Republicans display their outrage over what people do in the privacy of their homes. Don't you do it too. Shame, shame, lefty blogosphere. You have let me down.

duffell
August 1st, 2005, 11:39 AM
You know what? I take back my defense of the guy. What an asshole. (http://dailykos.com/story/2005/7/30/153741/171)

Johnny Slick
August 2nd, 2005, 11:31 AM
I agree that I feel a little uncomfortable with lefties using BSDM the way Republicans have used extramarital sex in the past. I think that in fact we need to differentiate a lot of this stuff from cases like Jim West, in which the scandals were misuse of power and hypocrisy, not just "being gay." John Bolton I am on the fence about as from what I've read the recipients of his particular sexual urges were not always completely willing (not accusing him of rape, I just believe his wife). Even so, I really don't give a fuck whether or not he likes to put a harness on his lover and ride her around the room like a pony. I think that crap like this if anything takes the heat off of the real demons right now, those conservatives who are filling up their wallets like they were 5 1980s era corrupt Democrats all rolled into one.

Dan Savage
August 2nd, 2005, 05:06 PM
I disagree with Johnny...

The issue isn't that Joe Braun is into BDSM, and wants a slave, and is into "erotic torment," AKA torture - a lot of Republicans have embraced torture in the last three years.

What matters, what makes Braun's sexual preferences material, is that he attacks other people for their sexual tastes - homosexuals, of course. Braun is a "family values" crusader, and he's working for a Republican "family values" candidate. If you run on those issues/principles, your adherence to them is relevant. And, I'm sorry, having a naked person in a collar and cuffs, while sexy, doesn't fit into any definition of "family values" promoted by the American Talibandits.

So, as with Jim West, the issue ISN'T that Joe Braun is a perv (I'm using the term in the sex-positive sense), but that he's a hypocrite. Expose him.

Johnny Slick
August 2nd, 2005, 07:13 PM
I disagree with Johnny...

The issue isn't that Joe Braun is into BDSM, and wants a slave, and is into "erotic torment," AKA torture - a lot of Republicans have embraced torture in the last three years.

What matters, what makes Braun's sexual preferences material, is that he attacks other people for their sexual tastes - homosexuals, of course. Braun is a "family values" crusader, and he's working for a Republican "family values" candidate. If you run on those issues/principles, your adherence to them is relevant. And, I'm sorry, having a naked person in a collar and cuffs, while sexy, doesn't fit into any definition of "family values" promoted by the American Talibandits.

So, as with Jim West, the issue ISN'T that Joe Braun is a perv (I'm using the term in the sex-positive sense), but that he's a hypocrite. Expose him.I understand where you're coming from, but IMO the end result of that is just that BSDM is going to begin being accepted by mainstream conservatives whereas homosexual sex will continue to be demonized - in fact, it'll become even worse because then they'll be able to turn the "stay out of our bedrooms" arguments back on us. I think that the Jim West case is different because it's about a closeted homosexual decrying homosexuality. I'm not sure that it's fruitful to adopt the conservative "deviant" and "pervert" rhetoric to attack a person who is into kinky sex but thinks the gay are destroy 'Merka.

duffell
August 3rd, 2005, 12:27 PM
I understand where you're coming from, but IMO the end result of that is just that BSDM is going to begin being accepted by mainstream conservatives...

Riiiiiiiight.

Some Republicans may 'get off' on causing harm to their constituents, but it just ain't the same thing. They are not now, nor will they ever be the party of sexual freedom (See Sen. Rick Santorum, R-PA).

Johnny Slick
August 3rd, 2005, 01:33 PM
Riiiiiiiight.

Some Republicans may 'get off' on causing harm to their constituents, but it just ain't the same thing. They are not now, nor will they ever be the party of sexual freedom (See Sen. Rick Santorum, R-PA).Sorry, that should have read "the sexual pecadillos of their own." Santorum could fuck a pig and his constituents would excuse it.

duffell
August 3rd, 2005, 01:40 PM
True. As far as the Republican party is concerned, hypocrisy is the spice of life. Which reminds me... (http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/06/bizarre_sex_habits_of_the_extreme_rightwing.php)

Shady_B_206
August 15th, 2005, 11:08 AM
I disagree with Johnny...

The issue isn't that Joe Braun is into BDSM, and wants a slave, and is into "erotic torment," AKA torture - a lot of Republicans have embraced torture in the last three years.

What matters, what makes Braun's sexual preferences material, is that he attacks other people for their sexual tastes - homosexuals, of course. Braun is a "family values" crusader, and he's working for a Republican "family values" candidate. If you run on those issues/principles, your adherence to them is relevant. And, I'm sorry, having a naked person in a collar and cuffs, while sexy, doesn't fit into any definition of "family values" promoted by the American Talibandits.

So, as with Jim West, the issue ISN'T that Joe Braun is a perv (I'm using the term in the sex-positive sense), but that he's a hypocrite. Expose him.



I agree with you except when you say, "promoted by the American Talibandits."

That comment makes you seem like a fucking idiot who cannot tell the difference between someone who just does not like a group of people, but for the most part (not all the time) leaves them alone, and someone who hates a group of people so much they will kill themselves to see said group of people dead!!

Do you see now why you sound like an idiot?

No offence, I still got love for ya ;-) !!