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Rain Monkey
August 8th, 2005, 10:50 PM
This Wednesday, August 10, the Seattle City Council will hold a public hearing at high noon on the Mayor's plan to run the dance hall girls outta town.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/231808_strippers08.html

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=22155

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=22298

Today, on KUOW a news report carried testimony that under the present rules it costs the city from 20 to 60 bucks to police strip clubs. I want to know why the cops don't have to buy their own damn lap dances like the rest of us? Will the City Council be doing "research" on the public dole?

Bullwinkle
August 9th, 2005, 10:02 AM
"Mayor Vows to Lick Strippers" - damn that lucky dog!

Rain Monkey
August 11th, 2005, 08:37 PM
Erica C. Barnett covered the city council meeting, and I was not able to go testify as a happy client of the occasional strippers' lap dances, and fine upstanding citizen.

http://www.thestranger.com/blog/archives/2005/08/07-13.php#a001056

Erica equivocates on wether strip clubs are harmless, and of course they are not. They harm the strippers moral character, and lead to utter depravity among their clients (yawn) who are in both cases consenting adults.

But compared to some other entertainments, beer gardens for example, or boxing matches, or even the violence in high school football, they seem positively tame. Except that they are about pretty girls rubbing against mostly ugly guys, until the ugly guys run out of money, then they stop.

But like beer gardens, or booze in general, this sort of thing is far less harmful when it is legal. And it would be less harmful still if there was not a five club shared monopoly for the owners at the expense of the girls and boys.

Rain Monkey
August 12th, 2005, 08:01 AM
Today, Friday August 12, at noon, there will be another meeting of the City Council on the pressing, urgent matter of lap dances.

I would hope that if Laura Bush and Lynn Cheney visit Seattle they would be able to visit some nice Chippendale's boys and tip them directly.

John Tierney got it right when he told the liberals to quit clenching their sphincters about the idea of the first two ladies going to a strip club:

http://www.thestate.com/mld/state/news/opinion/11557454.htm

Rain Monkey
August 12th, 2005, 09:11 AM
From: xxxxxxx@xxx.xxx
Subject: Strip Club Ordinance
Date: August 12, 2005 9:05:54 AM PDT
To: richard.mciver@seattle.gov, richard.conlin@seattle.gov, tom.rasmussen@seattle.gov, jean.godden@seattle.gov, jan.drago@seattle.gov, jim.compton@seattle.gov, nick.licata@seattle.gov, david.della@seattle.gov, and peter.steinbrueck@seattle.gov

If Laura Bush and Lynne Cheney come to Seattle and want to see a night on the town, where will they go to tip some nice Chippendale boys directly, as we know they like to do?

I have purchased lap dances, and enjoyed them. I would like to continue to do so. The arguments in favor of the Mayor's ban are based on caricatures of stereotypes. They do not exist in reality. In reality what you see at strip clubs are people, grown men and women, who like to watch various stages of undress and enjoy a brief fantasy of vicarious, ritualized sexual spectacle.

Now, some people are troubled that others find pleasure in this way. Other people are more troubled by the vicarious, ritualized spectacle of violence represented on the football field.

If you pass the Mayor's ordinance, will you apply the same standards to other businesses and entertainments? Which do you think really causes more damage, strippers and their clients, or the football hooligans streaming to and from every play-field?

Like bars, the business of vicarious thrill goes against the morality of many, yet is less harmful to the community when it is legal than when it is illegal.

Take your responsibility as a public servant seriously, and do not apply a double standard on the basis of puritanical prudishness.

Rain P. Monkey
American

Lucius Bolivar
August 12th, 2005, 01:58 PM
Doesn't the mayor have more important things to worry about?

Rain Monkey
August 12th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Did you hear that pro-lapdance freak call into KUOW's weekday today? Yeah, that was me. Knute agreed with me, and seemed to be laughing his ass off. Susan Paynter was about to get the vapors and faint. Steve Scher seemed uncomfortable with my unashamed delight.

segal
August 12th, 2005, 09:14 PM
Doesn't every fool mayor know that more strip clubs = more $ in the local economy? I mean, don't they teach that on the first day of mayoral school? FFS.

Rain Monkey
July 9th, 2008, 10:25 PM
The Mayor, Chief Kerlikoski, and the feds are are gunning for the Frank and Frankie, the Corlicuccios. And this time the Mayor has his panties all in a twist.

Read all about it in this weeks Seattle Weekly.

Ballard Pimp
July 9th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Hey, RM, at least this time it looks like Mayor Greg is leaving the girls alone...

Gazelam
July 9th, 2008, 11:29 PM
Which raises the question, is there any beef between the stripping and pimping industries? Or are the mutually beneficial towards each other?

Rain Monkey
July 10th, 2008, 08:07 AM
Hey, RM, at least this time it looks like Mayor Greg is leaving the girls alone...

I think that he thought there would be no political downside to slapping strippers around the last time and was surprised when the good people of Seattle came to their defense.

From what I've been reading lately, the posts from BP and the column by Mistress Matisse, the Corlacuccios are not nice guys, nor wise guys.

But you do have to have some affection for a nonagenarian who pays his dues to society every time he gets convicted, and then comes back to catch up on banging the girls. A guy who keeps a roll of C notes in his bathrobe when he goes to get the paper.

The whole strippergate thing was bullshit. Judy Nicastro threw away an opportunity, and the city is worse off without her. Stupid, stupid bullshit. She went for the cash the same way I'd walk in front of a bus chasing a skirt.

Do you suppose Mayor Nicols has ever gotten campaign contributions from someone who might like a zoning change. Golly.

Mayor Nicols is not trying to improve the city, he is merely trying to stop the flow of campaign contributions to his political rivals.

Which raises the question, is there any beef between the stripping and pimping industries? Or are the mutually beneficial towards each other?

Both benefit from keeping sex work in the black market, and from keeping strip clubs in the limited market of a shared monopoly.

Update: After the mayor declared a day in his honor on winning the Pulitzer for his book "The Worst Hard Time," Timothy Egan made a statement from the podium to the mayor advising him to leave the strippers alone.

Ballard Pimp
July 10th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Both benefit from keeping sex work in the black market, and from keeping strip clubs in the limited market of a shared monopoly.

Exactly so. Shit, make it legal and I'd have to work for a living.

No chance of that happening. Nickels is afraid of unauthorized orgasms.

Gazelam
July 10th, 2008, 05:37 PM
It's a bizarre legal position to take if you don't think that premarital sex should be illegal. Morally it's not much different than bar hookups or fucking on the first date. It's just strange to me when I reflect on how capricious the Victorian stranglehold on our civic groupthink is.

Ballard Pimp
July 10th, 2008, 10:50 PM
fucking on the first date.

Is there any other kind of first date??

skidmark
July 10th, 2008, 11:27 PM
Is there any other kind of first date??

Yes, BP in a universe which for what it lacks in god, it makes up for in fried ice cream.
There is another kind of first date.

Gazelam
July 12th, 2008, 09:21 AM
Yeah, plus I want them to respect me the next day.